Is it worth ditiching the dizzy all together and installing megasquirt with coil on plugs, or a ford edis. The megajolte is designed to work with the commonly available ford edis 4,6 or 8 cylinder ignition module. Top dollar efi controllers are no different, the tuning software is typically lacking in feature and refinement, making configuration confusing and overly complex. This controller is jampacked with features found on aftermarket engine controllers costing 10x as much, yet is easy to use and configure. It was by any standard a barking mad as a mad thing engine, wildlywild camshaft, huge ported heads, omega pistons with massive valve cut outs, bleed down lifters, and a whole host of other lovely tuning bits, which made for a fabulously powerful race engine.
In case i manage to rebuild the engine once i have time and money to do so i would be happy with a cheap, programmable, understandable, reliable and somewhat simple efi. Need help, i asked holley about two years ago if it was possible to use the dominator ecu on a v12 engine like jaguar. These kits are put together so you get everything you need to get your engine running in one go. Unleash the full potential of the megasquirtiii with the ms3x board. Jag v12 megasquirt wastedspark no exhaust nick truman. This model is equipped for basic, batch fire, but can be expanded to add sequential injection and 8 channel ignition control with an ms3x card sold separately.
This is my jag v12 engine just after having megasquirt installed. However there are changes to both the front and rear panel. Fitting dual edis systems on the jag v12 or possibly other engines has now been done, with a single megasquirt 2. A number of merlin and allison v12 tractor pullers are running them successfully. Megasquirt is the premier doityourself efi controller. I offer a bespoke engine management system that is fully programmable by the user with a normal laptop. The ms1 ecu has been used successfully on everything from ferraris to 2cvs, 27 litre v12 rolls royce merlin engines with 24 spark plugs to one cylinder lawnmower engines, so it has a proven track record. You can also bring your car to us and have it mapped. Where the real fault comes in, is not knowing that if your v12 marelli jag. For the new megasquirt v3 main board, the case will be the same as used for the other megasquirt boards lmb 6x4 case or equivalent, however the endplates are different as the db connectors have moved. Make offer megasquirt 1 onboard bluetooth converter.
Your project sounds extremely interesting and im sure that megasquirt will serve you well. Combined with inexpensive and easy to obtain oem coil packs, trigger wheel and crank sensor, sold separately you can realize your engines potential at a fraction of the cost of other systems. Scca emod mgb gt v12 buildpage 18 builds and project cars. My jag v12 runs 6000rpm with single coil albeit with modern lumenition ignition. I did a megasquirt on a he v12 once but in the end it was not really worth it. This is the latest top of the range megasquirt ecu the megasquirt 3 ms3. The megasquirtmicrosquirt is a community supported project aimed at the experienced installer and knowledgeable enthusiast. He is the one who built the delay circuit for saw signal going to the second edis6 controller. May 04, 2009 i did a megasquirt on a he v12 once but in the end it was not really worth it. We are also corresponding with philip in south africa who did three of his v12 cars with megasquirt and edis. The 8187 he v12 engines had a lucas ignition system which relied on dual coils to build enough magnetic flux in the primary windings but ran fine up to 6000rpm. An engineer can come out to you and map your vehicle on site and on the road or track if not road legal. For all the complication, weight, and technology involved, jag v12s dont put out all that much power. Beginning with the mspnp2, we redesigned the core of the mspnp hardware, basing it off of the much faster megasquirtii processor which will give you all of the control youve been looking for.
Paramount performance is a name synonymous with the jaguar car marque and high performance engineering tuning. The iac unit is a bosch type from volvo 760 but also found in several other european cars. In basic form it is capable of running both fuel and ignition. Water injection is supported in both cars software if you make an extension board, but else you can leave it out. Autosport labs view topic dual edis6 support for v12. Bright red hot headers as the v12 screams to 300 horsepower and 385 lbft of torque on the rolling road dyno. Heres an exellent explaination courtesy of simon r of xeng. Megasquirtiii engine management system wpcb3 unassembled. With additional options it turns into a very powerful engine performance modifier. Twin turbo jag v12 mid engined scratch built zonda hi there, i have been told you guys might be interested in my project. It was back in june 2007 when i had a john eales built full race 4. New here, ive been looking for jag v12 megasquirt info for some time, this thread still seems to be about the most comprehensive im beginning a build of a prehe racing engine.
Timeless automotives v12 jaguar megasquirt youtube. If you use a distributor its a no brainer in my opinion. Emerald k6 ecu is fully user manageable through our easytouse software. Drill into those connections to view the associated network performance such as latency and packet loss, and application process resource utilization metrics such. The megasquirt efi controller uses dedicated tuining software for firmware reprogramming, engine monitoring, and tuning. Sounds like an awesome project, its nice to know there are more people out there crazy enough to own a v12 jag and try to megasquirt it. You can go to carburetion, give the car a 300lb diet, and pick up a bunch of power by swapping in nearly any 350 chevy with a performance cam. It was developed as an open source project where lots of people contribute to the hardware and software. A megasquirt v8 custom loom kit this is the easiest way and probably the most reliable for the future. Ive worked on over 75 of these cars as well when i was a jaguar mechanic. Hi all ive installed a dual edis6 igntion system on my jag v12 knowing that the saw phasing for the bbank edis module would not follow after the pip falling edge but be close to the pip rising edge. You can also deliver your car to us, leave it with us and collect it when mapping is completed.
Main differences in zonda engine to make it sound so. If you are not comfortable with this then the megasquirt and microsquirt systems perhaps arent for you. Even without a computer connected, the three leds on the megasquirt efi controller enclosure allow you to monitor injection pulse commanded, warmup enrichment, and acceleration enrichment at any time. Included is a megasquirtiii engine management system wpcb3. The generation 2 mspnp and all new mspnp pro reaches out to more of your favorite vehicles.
Twin turbo jag v12 mid engined scratch built zonda page 1. The software for both cars supports iac idle control via the standard ms fast idle. I have a insert year, make and model here, what exactly do i need to order for my car. Hi all, im new to ms and just want to clear up a few things before i start my build, the one thing baffling me at the moment is. Hi, new megasquirt user here, currently converting my jaguar series 3 v12. Dont be fooled by the affordable nature of these controllers. We are running a v12 jaguar independent of the cars ecm. Fitting dual edis systems on the jag v12 or possibly other engines has now been done, with a single megasquirt2. I also removed the air tubes, sealing the holes in the intake with 1 nail anchors and the stock air tube orings. The other visual differences under the hood are the late model v12 fuel rails and. Megasquirt 2 is a standalone engine management controller. Which megasquirt engine management system is right for you. Forums builds and project cars scca emod mgb gt v12 build.
Jul 04, 2008 this is my jag v12 engine just after having megasquirt installed. Ford ignition control module igniter edis8 megasquirt standalone. What is the difference between the megasquirt pcb 2. Beginning with the mspnp2, we redesigned the core of the mspnp hardware, basing it off of the much faster megasquirt ii processor which will give you all of the control youve been looking for. Any documentation or user comments on the forums have not been deleted, but will often now be behind the times. Twin turbo jag v12 mid engined scratch built zonda. Megasquirt on the v8 land rover technical archive lr4x4. However, the same solution can be implemented with a single megajolt or any other ecu capable of controlling an edis based ignition system. Then i split the fuel rail and mounted it where each air.
Megasquirt v3 main board megasquirtr faq main page. Paramount performance was probably the first tuning company to specialise in the modern range of jaguar vehilces we have real heritage and history of working with jaguars, we have now developed into the leading modern jaguar. The latest version for windows, linux, and macintosh can be found at megalogviewer is the software application used to view datalogs. Spectre or fordcrushergt, just bought a 87 jaguar xjs v12, no rust and. Several of my friends and i own jag v12 cars as well and we have been looking into this for quite some time. The key is having a circuit to delay the saw pulse to the second edis module until. Indeed the ms2extra and ms3 ecus can run all those too. Having just fitted a modern a to my series 3 v12i was rather disappointed to find that the battery guage volt meter still went well below the v indication, deep into the off charge zonehaving checked voltages with my fluke multimeter, i concluded that the volt gauge was basically lying grossly under reading.
How difficult is it to assemble a megasquirt myself. I chose to convert all the ignition over to my megasquirt ecu. The ms3 firmware includes many race type features, two stages of. Drill into those connections to view the associated network performance such as latency and packet loss, and application process resource utilization metrics such as cpu and memory usage. I have owned this car for 20 years and it is my daily driver. Meanwhile, for v12 application, there are a ton of guys running megasquirt. It is by being supported by the online community that enables the product to be offered at such low prices. Server and application monitor helps you discover application dependencies to help identify relationships between application servers. Welcome to the online home of essex megasquirt i am an engine tuning company based in westcliffonsea essex. There have been several applications using the jag v12 that i know of so you have a good knowledge base to fall back on. Tunerstudioms is the software application that is used to tune your megasquirt efi controller.
Megasquirt support forum msextra jaguar v12 view topic. Megasquirt is effectively a diy fuel injection system. Software is fully configurable by owners, imo this ecu is no brainer for all road v12s. I have an old rx7 i put a turbo v8 from a silverado truck in with megasquirt, it is very fast but as you can imagine doesnt have the sound of the exotics, i keep wondering if i could build something with a zonda type sound, modify a mercedes v12 or bmw v8 or v10, but from listening to loud mufflered videos on youtube they sound crappy like a. Ms3 supports fullsequential on a v8 or semisequential with wasted spark on a v12. A year ago i started my kit car, based on a v12 from an xjs with running gear from a scorpio i have built a full size zonda replica. They answered no, but i cant quite believe that, because the dominator has 12 ignition channels and 12 injection drivers. There are several versions of tunerstudio available depending on your controller and support for more controllers under way along. Fuel injection on the v12 engine page 2 the e type forum.
This is true for all cars but particularly for jag v12s. Used if when you start your engine it refuses to turn off on the key. The driving force behind this was the use of an integrated heat sink bus. For all the complication, weight, and technology involved, jag v12 s dont put out all that much power. Having just fitted a modern a to my series 3 v12 i was rather disappointed to find that the battery guage volt meter still went well below the v indication, deep into the off charge zonehaving checked voltages with my fluke multimeter, i concluded that the volt gauge was basically lying grossly under reading. Megasquirt has been in existence and in continuous development, both software and hardware, for about fifteen years or more. Megasquirt engine management systems triggerwheels. The megasquirt ecu has all the standard features youve come to expect from myself plus a fan output for optional cooling fan control, a tacho output for your rev counter tacho output only for nondistributor setups and an air temperature sensor to allow the maf to be removed. Whether you are looking to gain indebt knowledge of efi by building a full featured ecu on your own, or simply want to save money building a proven reliable kit, from megasquirt origins the diy spirit is available in partial and complete kits. There is a jag v12 forum discussion over in the new users forum at. Spark jumping at ht coil turbo r 1993 rollsroyce and. Read only megasquirt success stories by bowling and grippo.
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